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Little-Known 51c Variation

Postby Idris » Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:22 pm

Lot 5147 of the recent Wally Walters Vectis auction (hammer price £400 excl. buyer's premium) highlighted a little-known variation of the 'Douglas' label. Usually found in orange on white, and occasionally in black on white, very occasionally it is found in red on white. This is my example...

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...and I can vouch that the printing is very definitely red rather than orange.
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Re: Little-Known 51c Variation

Postby kwakers » Sat Feb 04, 2017 2:15 am

Very Nice Hugh, and as you say, a little known variation that is still new to me...... :shock: Dick
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Re: Little-Known 51c Variation

Postby Brad Pittiful » Sat Feb 04, 2017 6:03 pm

checked mine...all are orange
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Re: Little-Known 51c Variation

Postby Taniwha » Sun Feb 05, 2017 1:54 am

New to me too - never seen that before. Another one goes onto the list...which seems to get longer rather than shorter these days!

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Re: Little-Known 51c Variation

Postby Tinman » Mon Feb 06, 2017 12:28 am

Are we sure it's not a reproduction or code 3?
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Re: Little-Known 51c Variation

Postby Idris » Mon Feb 06, 2017 7:44 am

Tinman wrote:Are we sure it's not a reproduction or code 3?


No, but the fact that there is now documentary evidence for both a playworn and a mint example provides a degree of confidence (c.f. black and white label version). In addition, the labels on mine have all the scuffs and dents you would expect given the general condition of the model.
I'm also heartened by the fact that the one in the recent Vectis sale went for so much and had a high estimate, indicating that a number of other collectors also believe this to be a genuine variation.
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Re: Little-Known 51c Variation

Postby Idris » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:24 pm

Idris wrote:
Tinman wrote:Are we sure it's not a reproduction or code 3?


No, but the fact that there is now documentary evidence for both a playworn and a mint example provides a degree of confidence (c.f. black and white label version). In addition, the labels on mine have all the scuffs and dents you would expect given the general condition of the model.
I'm also heartened by the fact that the one in the recent Vectis sale went for so much and had a high estimate, indicating that a number of other collectors also believe this to be a genuine variation.


I have just checked the labels with a 15x magnifying glass and can report that, apart from the colour, they appear to be identical in every way to the standard orange version.
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Re: Little-Known 51c Variation

Postby Tinman » Sun Feb 12, 2017 4:28 pm

Interesting, never seen one before.
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Re: Little-Known 51c Variation

Postby Brad Pittiful » Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:25 pm

idris...a casting variation was found to have thin axle pivots...does yours have thick or thin pivots?
if it has thin pivots and the red label...could be an early trial model...anyone agree?
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Re: Little-Known 51c Variation

Postby Idris » Sun Feb 12, 2017 6:20 pm

Brad Pittiful wrote:idris...a casting variation was found to have thin axle pivots...does yours have thick or thin pivots?


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