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Help needed indetifying some models

Postby fordy81 » Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:01 pm

Hi folks,

My dad has entrusted me in selling his childhood Dinky toys. Other than deciding between where to sell them and as a whole or individually, I'm struggling to indentify a lot of them.

The boxed ones aren't a problem, but I can't identify a lot of the cars. I've seen what I think is a complete catalogue, but can't see them in there. Can anyone point me in the direction of one if it at all exists?

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Re: Help needed indetifying some models

Postby motorman » Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:01 pm

Welcome Fordy81.

As a new member I don't think your images will be visible until you have had more than 3 posts approved by the moderators of the forum.
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Re: Help needed indetifying some models

Postby Idris » Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:06 pm

motorman wrote:Welcome Fordy81.

As a new member I don't think your images will be visible until you have had more than 3 posts approved by the moderators of the forum.


I'm not sure that's true, Alex. I think we've seen other newbies post photo-based queries without any issues.
My own feeling is that this is either an issue with the links not being correct or a problem with the photo host. I've already e-mailed Fordy81 warning him there's an issue and asking him to look into the problem. (Could it perhaps be a permissions issue, something like a private folder?)
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Re: Help needed indetifying some models

Postby motorman » Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:58 pm

Ok Hugh, hopefully Fordy81 will be able to resolve the issue.
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Re: Help needed indetifying some models

Postby starni999 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 4:29 pm

Hi there,
There are some really nice models there, some really quite rare and valuable. They all look to be in the Pre 1950 era, and some look Pre War though it's hard to tell without detailed pictures. I would not sell them as a single lot, as you will not get anywhere near what you will get individually. Maybe an Auction house would be the way to go if you didn't want to split them up?
What I can do is give you a number and model name for each of the ones you've shown which should help you list them.
I'll try to get it done over the weekend. I might need close up shots of some for further info.
The cars can be very difficult to ID from a catalogue as they do pretty much look alike.
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Re: Help needed indetifying some models

Postby starni999 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:17 pm

OK Here we go.....

Picture 1.
Back row. L -R .
25k Streamlined Fire Engine.
29e Single Decker Bus.
29c Double Decker Bus.

Middle Row.
25m Bedford Tipper.
14a BEV Electric Truck.
33w Mechanical Horse and Trailer.

Front Row.
23a Racing Car.
23e Speed of the Wind.
35b Racer.
35c MG Sports Car.

Picture 2.
Back Row.
25b Covered Wagon. Type 4.
151b Military Transport Wagon.

Next Row.
23b Hotchkiss.
152b Reconnaissance Car.
34c Loudspeaker Van.

Next Row.
280 Delivery Van.
34b Royal mail van. (Maybe Pre War, close up of rear doors and wheels / axles needed to tell).
27d Land Rover.

Next Row.
36g Taxi.
25c Tipper. (Type 2 or 3, pic of base needed to tell).
151a Medium Tank.

Front Row.
35a Saloon.
35d AUstin 7 Tourer.

Picture 3.

Back Row.
25v Bedford Refuse Lorry.
27a Massey Harris Tractor.
30f Ambulance.

Next Row.
25f Market Gardeners Lorry. (Type 4).
23c Mercedes Large Racing Car.
36c Humber Vogue.

Next Row.
38d Alvis.
39c Lincoln Zephyr.
25d Tanker (Type 4).

Front Row.
29b Streamline Bus.
25t Flat Truck and Trailer.

Picture 4.
Back Row.
30d Vauxhall. (Pre War? Pic of wheels / base / axles needed to tell)
36f British Salmson 4 seater.

Next Row.
36b Bentley.
36d Rover.

Front.
30b Rolls Royce.

Picture 5.
Back Row.
39d Buick Viceroy.
36a Armstrong Siddeley.

Next Row.
40a Riley.
39a Packard Super 8.

Front Row.
40d Austin Devon.
30c Daimler.

Picture 6.
Back Row.
504 Foden 14 Ton Tanker. (1st Type).
571 Coles Mobile Crane.

Next Row.
561 Blaw Knox Bulldozer.
562 Muir Hill Dumper.

Front Row.
511 Guy Wagon.
512 Guy Flat Truck.

The final picture has 2 small cars that I don't know, the rest are mostly Dinky signs / bits and pieces.
I am going to guess they are all postwar, but need the pictures listed above to tell.

There is some very nice stuff here, how many are there in total?

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Re: Help needed indetifying some models

Postby Idris » Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:38 pm

Now the problem with the photographs has been resolved, I can see that there is a good selection of vehicles, all of which look to be in good to near mint connection. I'm sure that you will have no problem finding willing buyers should you wish to go down that path.
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Re: Help needed indetifying some models

Postby fordy81 » Sat Apr 08, 2017 12:11 am

Wow Chris. Thank you so much for your reply, that's amazing.

My dad says a lot of them were pre-war.

Picture 6, all of those come in boxes, and the boxes themselves are in fantastic condition, the rest don't. But apparently they never had boxes. Several used to come in one box and the shopkeeper would take one out of that.

Is eBay a good place to sell? I imagine most collectors will be watching it?
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Re: Help needed indetifying some models

Postby Idris » Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:32 am

fordy81 wrote:Is eBay a good place to sell? I imagine most collectors will be watching it?


Ebay has its place and is certainly good for selling odds and ends and for getting money quickly. However, in this case we are talking about a collection, and it there is a significant pre-war component, then I would have thought that a specialist auction house would be more appropriate, e.g Vectis (http://www.vectis.co.uk/Page/Index.aspx), who will give you good coverage and get you top prices, albeit with a hefty commission. Alternatively, there’s SAS (http://www.specialauctionservices.com/a ... lendar.php). Lacy, Scott, Knight (http://www.lskauctioncentre.co.uk/) are also carving out a bit of a reputation for toy auctions. (I think a good auction house with a reputation for quality collectors’ toy sales will always achieve a better price than Ebay. Also, you do not need to worry about fraudsters and loss/damage in the post.
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Re: Help needed indetifying some models

Postby starni999 » Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:13 am

Hi Fordy,

Glad to help, as Idris says I really would not go down the Ebay route with these. The fees alone on these would be very expensive, and there are real issues with none payers too. An auction house would be really happy to handle these for you as there is significant value there.

http://www.astonsauctioneers.co.uk are local here, and seem very good, though I've never sold through them.

Have a look at the Pre War vs Post War sticky at the top of the Dinky Toy area here, it should help to clear up a few issues. I can't tell for sure if a model is Pre War without really close up photos. The price difference between the same models made in 1940 and in 1945 are VERY large in favour of the Pre War model, so please do check.

Cheers
CW.

PS..If I win the lottery tonight it's no issue, I'll see you tomorrow with cash. :lol:
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